Legislature(1997 - 1998)

01/27/1998 03:06 PM House HES

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SSHB 148 - SCHOOL FUNDING ETC./ CHILD CARE GRANTS                              
                                                                               
Number 2090                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE announced the next item on the agenda was SSHB 148              
"An Act relating to the public school funding program; relating to             
the definition of a school district, to the transportation of                  
students, to school district layoff plans, to the special education            
service agency, to the child care grant program, and to compulsory             
attendance in public schools; and providing for an effective date."            
He noted this legislation was held over from the last legislative              
session.  The hearing would be teleconferenced to Anchorage,                   
Fairbanks, Valdez, Barrow and Seward.                                          
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE directed committee members' attention to the                    
proposed committee substitute.                                                 
                                                                               
Number 2132                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a motion to adopt proposed committee                 
substitute 0-LS0605\H, Ford, 1/24/98, as a work draft.  There being            
no objection, that version was before the committee.                           
                                                                               
Number 2142                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE explained this legislation pertains to the                      
foundation formula; how state money is apportioned to the various              
schools in the state.  It has been under discussion for a year in              
an attempt to simplify the foundation formula and ensure that it's             
a fair and equitable distribution throughout the state.  He pointed            
out the legislation had been updated by changing dates for the                 
current year.  An area cost differential study will be released  on            
Monday and incorporated into this proposed committee substitute.               
Another change is that district correspondence students are to be              
counted in the same manner as state correspondence students.  He               
explained that in some areas correspondence students are counted as            
a full time student in attendance.  In his view, that was not a                
fair distribution of the money because correspondence students cost            
the district less than a student who physically attends school.                
                                                                               
Number 2205                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE said this is still a complex bill, but it was his               
desire that the committee substitute be adopted as a work draft to             
facilitate discussion.  He pointed out that Eddy Jeans from the                
Department of Education was available to answer questions.                     
                                                                               
Number 2248                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE J. ALLEN KEMPLEN asked if the proposed committee                
substitute was basically the same as the version that was discussed            
during the last session with the exception of the changes mentioned            
by Chairman Bunde.                                                             
                                                                               
Number 2250                                                                    
                                                                               
EDDY JEANS, Manager, School Finance Section, Education Support                 
Services, Department of Education, confirmed that.                             
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN noted that at the interim meeting of the                
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee, the                  
Anchorage School District had raised the issue of transportation in            
that the district desired to have transportation dealt with                    
separately.  He inquired if transportation was still incorporated              
into the proposed committee substitute.                                        
                                                                               
MR. JEANS responded that it was still incorporated in the                      
legislation as part of the funding package.                                    
                                                                               
Number 2293                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE noted there was a substantial fiscal note - a half              
million dollars - through the first four years this formula would              
be in effect and the source of that funding has not yet been                   
addressed.                                                                     
                                                                               
Number 2325                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN referred to the matrix that had been                    
prepared last session, and asked if that matrix had been updated to            
reflect the other proposals.                                                   
                                                                               
TAPE 98-1, SIDE B                                                              
Number 0005                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. JEANS responded the Department of Education is in the process              
of updating the side-by-side comparison to include the new bills               
introduced by the Governor, as well as the other house bill that               
was introduced.  The comparison should be available by the end of              
the week.                                                                      
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE remarked that Representative Gene Kubina had                    
introduced legislation that would not change the formula from a per            
unit, per student, but would increase basically the local                      
contribution.                                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0037                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE indicated there will be three versions in the                   
Senate, two of which change from a unit distribution to a per pupil            
and the Governor's version is going back to a per unit                         
distribution.  The Governor's bill will be in the House, as well as            
this bill.  He mentioned that the "famous Education Weekly report"             
criticized Alaska's allocation formula.                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN referred to the fiscal note and said the cost             
builds up to approximately $2 million over the first four years and            
then the state begins to recoup in the last two years.  He asked,              
"If we were to carry that on, will that continue to be a negative              
fiscal note - in other words recouping - or will it just about die             
here as neutral?"                                                              
                                                                               
MR. JEANS stated the fiscal note reflects the changes in the                   
student allocation dollars over the six year period.  The intent               
was to keep it neutral - that it would cover the cost of enrollment            
growth but not put any additional dollars into the funding formula.            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN remarked, "So, that they'll be continuing --              
if you were to have carried it out further, there would be more                
negative -- eventually somewhere around neutral."                              
                                                                               
MR. JEANS said it would be somewhere around neutral.  He added,                
"We're talking within $500,000 out of a $650 million program."                 
                                                                               
Number 0118                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE inquired if the committee would have an                   
opportunity to discuss other aspects of the legislation on                     
Thursday.                                                                      
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE replied the committee would take as much time as                
necessary and encouraged committee members to review the proposed              
committee substitute and bring their questions to the meeting on               
Thursday.                                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0185                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE noted there were three individuals signed up to                 
testify on teleconference on the proposed CSSSHB 148(HES) Version              
H.  He invited individuals who had brief testimony to testify at               
this time; however, there would be an opportunity to testify on                
Thursday and again the following Thursday.                                     
                                                                               
Number 0225                                                                    
                                                                               
LELAND DISHMAN, Superintendent of Schools, North Slope Borough,                
testified in opposition to the proposed CSSSHB 148(HES) based on               
the escalator clause.  He explained the escalator clause deals with            
taxation that would be the equivalent of 4 mills in 1998, 5 mills              
in 1999 through 7 mills in 2002.  That kind of taxation would                  
bankrupt the North Slope operations, so there would be no way to               
fund it.  He noted he would present his testimony in depth on                  
Thursday.                                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0249                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN BUNDE announced the proposed CSSSHB 148(HES) would be held            
in committee and heard on Thursday, January 29, as well as                     
Thursday, February 5. He stated there would be no meeting of the               
House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee on              
Tuesday, February 3.                                                           

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